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Моя отзыв на третий сезон ASOUE - на английском, потому что сначала я его написала на тамблере, откуда и копирую.
Понятное дело, спойлеры и к сериалу, и к книгам.
thoughts on ASOUE Season 3
from someone who remembers the last four books (except for TGG) quite badly - I think I have to mention this at once. Overall I really enjoyed it, but to me, it was a season of bringing everything to the max - an expression which here means “some parts being absolutely perfect but some parts also being completely ruined”. More detailed review under the cut.
Things I lovedThings I loved:
- Acting. The main kids have developed into really good actors; their performances were outstanding. It is difficult for me to determine how much of Sunny is CGI and how much is actually Presley Smith, but she was as adorable as ever (I LOVED how sweet and pleased her face was when she suggested pushing Olaf overboard). Malina Weissman and Louis Hynes delivered a lot of emotional scenes and showed the inner conflicts faced by the Baudelaires perfectly (also, remember how we speculated about why the Baudelaire siblings never really cry on the show? Well, there was a lot of crying this season and I cried with them, too). The rest of the cast was also splendid. Kitana Turnbull is still nailing it as Carmelita, Lucy Punch is still an amazing Esme, Tony Hale is still a great Jerome. Neil Patrick Harris’s performance this season included a number of heartfelt scenes I wouldn’t even think the show version of Olaf capable of. Usman Ally’s performance, together with additional character development, was more than I could ever wish for Fernald, one of my favourite characters. Really, everyone did great.
- I agree with the review that said that in this season, children are finally not overshadowed by adults. The adult characters (Kit, Fernald, Lemony, Dewey) still get more to do than they did in the books, but they do not take up as much screentime as Jacques and Olivia or the Quagmire parents. It is truly the kids (the Baudelaires + Quigley + Fiona) who are in the focus. As it should be.
- When I say that something in a book/film/show made me cry, it is often an exaggeration, but I literally wept when Sunny was persuading Violet to leave her in captivity as a spy. Especially when Sunny tied up her hair the way Violet does, and also when she showed that she learned to be brave from Violet. It is my favourite moment of the season.
- Quigley. I can’t say the Quagmires are my faves, but it’s still a pity that the show made Duncan and Isadora (to my mind) pretty bland. Quigley feels like a much more fleshed-out, interesting character than both his siblings combined - brave, resourceful, but also a bit reckless. And he’s the only Quagmire who has the right hairstyle (well, at least he looks very much like the Quagmire triplets in the illustrations for the translation I’ve read).
- Fernald and Sunny shared the cutest moments of the season. Yet still - I thought that when Fernald threw the cage off the mountain, he knew it was empty, but even if he did not, it wouldn’t be completely out of character for him to sacrifice something he cares about to win Olaf’s respect. Loved the Cinderella parallel and how Fernald is a messed-up version of Sunny’s fairy godmother. Also when he found out she was poisoned and took her in his arms T_T
- The interaction between Fernald and Fiona was exactly what I hoped for, they’re ride or die for each other since the very moment they’re reunited
- Jerome/Charles and Babs/Mrs Bass! I’m choosing to believe both Jerome and Babs survived the fire (I mean, Justice Strauss managed to escape, and she was on the freaking rooftop!) and reunited with their respective love interests. Here for the implication that Charles is now running the lumbermill on his own after Sir fled - maybe it will finally become a better place of employment.
- I dreamed of Bea II and Lemony sharing root bear floats and I cannot believe I actually got to have this
- Kit and Lemony having some scenes together!
- The first shots of the Hotel Denouement… very pretty, very aesthetic
- I liked how it is shown that the Denouement brothers still care about one another despite their ideological differences (the way Frank and Ernest are both clearly grieving during the trial!). Another thing I liked was how at first they made it seem like Kit is dating the wicked brother. If I haven’t read the books, that would’ve been a big “holy shit” moment.
- The Man with a Beard but No Hair and the Woman with Hair but No Beard were properly menacing, and making their beard and hair essentially the same but upside down was brilliant.
- Some of the theories they chose to make true on the show are the ones that I believe to be true as well (e.g. Lemony being the taxi driver in TPP, The Man with a Beard and the Woman with Hair being Olaf’s chaperones/guardians, Olaf and Esme having murdered Carmelita’s parents).
- Lemony carrying around photos of his siblings
- When Violet closed Olaf’s eyes, I cried again.
Things I hatedThings I hated:
- I propose we all agree that Ish is lying about being the founder of VFD because he hasn’t seen new faces in ages and finally there are some new castaways whom he can bullshit about being more important than he actually was and stroking his ego. It became clear a long time ago that the show doesn’t give a damn about the canon timeline, but VFD being that recent does not make sense even in the Netflix-verse. What about so many VFD buildings, the underground repurposed as secret tunnels, the whole city being shaped like the VFD sign? It couldn’t have happened that fast. What about Kit saying she hadn’t learned to hang glide until she was seven? Does not sound like a regular thing to teach a child. Also it means that All the Wrong Questions cannot be adapted for the screen because then the Netflix-verse would contradict itself. The VFD was introduced as such a huge, omnipresent organization, and in the end it boiled down to, like, a group of too ambitious students letting their teacher fill their heads with nonsense The Secret History-style? Ridiculous.
- The only things I liked about the opera flashback was how dashing everyone looked (I think this was Esme’s best look in all three seasons) and how happy and careless and relaxed they were while Beatrice was singing. In all other respects it was a trainwreck. I am not upset that on the show it didn’t happen when the characters were kids because I do not have a strong opinion on what age everyone was then, and because learning that your friends and your girlfriend killed your parents sounds like a traumatizing experience no matter the age. But that’s the thing - on the show, it didn’t go down like this. The horror of what happened was downplayed by reducing the number of victims to Olaf’s father only, by not mentioning Kit’s involvement at all and turning a premeditated murder into manslaughter. And where’s Bertrand? Olaf blames both Baudelaires but we are shown that he saw Beatrice and Lemony with the darts. It isn’t even implied that Bertrand made the darts himself for this purpose specifically because Esme has the same weapon. And how does it all tie with the masked ball scene in s2? Kit writes Lemony a note saying that “Olaf knows” - of course he does, he fucking saw them! Why did Esme have the sugar bowl with the antidote with her at the opera - was she just casually drinking tea with this rare and precious substance to overdose and gain superpowers? What about the sugar cubes left behind - was there also some regular sugar in the bowl to, idk, make it seem less suspicious? An absolute mess, in my opinion.
- To continue the previous point: Bertrand seems like an absolutely unimportant figure, his role minimized to a minute or so on the island, and he deserves better
- This is small in importance but I really disliked that Kit said that Violet ties up her hair just like her mother while in the books it was her father, no matter whether Kit meant Bertrand or Lemony =/
- Also, like. Taking “or she!” from Fiona and giving it to Violet. Didn’t like that. Neither did I like Fiona calling Phil Cookie.
- IIRC they also gave “It’s Herman Melville” to Kit instead of Klaus? Why
- Larry was a recurring character who had a lot to do in s1 and 2, yet his death (and a horrible one, he was literally boiled alive) was presented in a quite an offhand way. I’m not saying he should’ve necessarily stayed alive - in fact, his death fits in very well with the motif of all decent adults eventually getting killed - but, in my view, it should’ve been given more weight.
- As I’ve already mentioned, I don’t remember The End that well, but everything about Ish and drugging the islanders seemed significantly less scary than in the books somehow
- The shot of Duncan and Isadora was clearly copy-pasted from TVV… listen, if you’re giving them a 100% happy ending, at least do not half-ass it
Things I have mixed feelings aboutThings I have mixed feelings about:
- I loved the Kitlaf stuff; probably showing that they were together in the opera flashback makes it less of a revelation than in the books, but I thought all their shared moments very moving. I also found it an interesting choice to make each of them recite bits from both poems, thus pointing out that Olaf once was not a stranger to love and romantic poetry and that Kit might share his ideas about “man hands on misery to man”. However, I think it’s a pity that Netflix eliminated all hints at Olaf possibly being Bea’s father. Even if he was not, the possibility of it being true in the light of the Baudelaires still raising Bea with love and care is, to my mind, very important.
- Jacquelyn being R… well, we saw that coming. Her mother’s death being so recent is another “fuck you” to the canon timeline, but at least it explains why in the previous two seasons nobody called her the duchess - officially, she wasn’t one yet. I don’t perceive the show as an extension of book canon - to me, it is just one interpretation among many - so this reveal hasn’t changed the fact that I imagine R being different from Jacquelyn. On the one hand, I am happy that one of my favourite characters made it into the adaptation (yes, one of my favourite characters is a sum total of comments made by other characters and a possibly fake letter, what of it), but I would’ve preferred if her portrayal included more of what we know about her from the books, such as her being close to both Lemony and Beatrice.
- By the time s3 aired, I had already reconciled myself to the fact that the show version of Kit will be extremely toned down, so this disappointment was expected and therefore not that strong. I think there were some moments in which she actually was more of her book version (recruiting kids to fulfil dangerous tasks like it’s nothing special, telling Lemony he should return to VFD), but of course this definitely noble, action-hero, composed Kit who looks forward to becoming a mother and leading a quiet life with Dewie on some island (wait, did they mean the Island?) is significantly less interesting than morally grey and depressed Kit who took part in many dubious or outright sinister plans (such as the Anwhistle Aquatics fire and the murder of Olaf’s parents, in which both she was not even involved on the show) and did not seem to care about her baby that much. It is truly ironic that Mr Poe repeatedly accidentally calls her Jacquelyn because show!Kit feels very much like a Jacquelyn 2.0.
- My first impression of Fiona was “oh no, they really gave her all the flaws her stepfather had in the books”. I ended up liking her because she worked on her behavior and most of the times she was rude it felt like she’s just trying too hard to convince everyone, herself included, that she’s got this while constantly being unsure and confused on the inside. But her weird rivalry with Violet still rubbed me the wrong way. I’m glad they resolved their issues in the end.
- The sugar bowl containing the antidote is an okay choice (timeline inconsistencies aside), but 1) I would’ve preferred it to stay a mystery, like in the books; 2) I still like the “this bitch empty” theory more.
- There was more of VFD being not entirely noble in this season (e.g. the Medusoid Mycelium) but of course it is still a very watered-down version of what this organization was like.
- Listen, I’d be lying if I said I hated the happy ending for the Quagmires and the Widdershins. Heck, my favourite post-The End headcanon is that they all (and Hector!) survived the Great Unknown and stuck together as one big family of choice. But what was the point of showing us the Bombinating Beast Great Unknown and, most importantly, having someone mention that it is a metaphor for death if it is not used as such? It is a metaphor, it does not necessarily mean that they literally died, it could just as well mean that the Baudelaires simply never learned what happened to all these people. A wasted opportunity.
- I assume the Baudelaires never got separated from Bea in the adaptation (since she does not immediately ask Lemony about them but proceeds, on the contrary, to tell him what happened to them) and the reason she searched for Lemony was simply wishing to get to know her uncle. It’s not bad, it fits well in the more optimistic narrative of the show, but the original story is still more interesting.
That’s probably all - at least all that comes to my mind at the moment.
On the whole, I think Season 3 and the show in general were rather a good adaptation than a bad one. Most importantly, I think it succeeds in performing what I consider the main function of an adaptation - making the audience interested in the source material. I am sure more people will read ASOUE (and ATWQ, and other Snicketverse books) after watching the show. I am also sure those who will read after watching the show first have a big storm coming.
Понятное дело, спойлеры и к сериалу, и к книгам.
thoughts on ASOUE Season 3
from someone who remembers the last four books (except for TGG) quite badly - I think I have to mention this at once. Overall I really enjoyed it, but to me, it was a season of bringing everything to the max - an expression which here means “some parts being absolutely perfect but some parts also being completely ruined”. More detailed review under the cut.
Things I lovedThings I loved:
- Acting. The main kids have developed into really good actors; their performances were outstanding. It is difficult for me to determine how much of Sunny is CGI and how much is actually Presley Smith, but she was as adorable as ever (I LOVED how sweet and pleased her face was when she suggested pushing Olaf overboard). Malina Weissman and Louis Hynes delivered a lot of emotional scenes and showed the inner conflicts faced by the Baudelaires perfectly (also, remember how we speculated about why the Baudelaire siblings never really cry on the show? Well, there was a lot of crying this season and I cried with them, too). The rest of the cast was also splendid. Kitana Turnbull is still nailing it as Carmelita, Lucy Punch is still an amazing Esme, Tony Hale is still a great Jerome. Neil Patrick Harris’s performance this season included a number of heartfelt scenes I wouldn’t even think the show version of Olaf capable of. Usman Ally’s performance, together with additional character development, was more than I could ever wish for Fernald, one of my favourite characters. Really, everyone did great.
- I agree with the review that said that in this season, children are finally not overshadowed by adults. The adult characters (Kit, Fernald, Lemony, Dewey) still get more to do than they did in the books, but they do not take up as much screentime as Jacques and Olivia or the Quagmire parents. It is truly the kids (the Baudelaires + Quigley + Fiona) who are in the focus. As it should be.
- When I say that something in a book/film/show made me cry, it is often an exaggeration, but I literally wept when Sunny was persuading Violet to leave her in captivity as a spy. Especially when Sunny tied up her hair the way Violet does, and also when she showed that she learned to be brave from Violet. It is my favourite moment of the season.
- Quigley. I can’t say the Quagmires are my faves, but it’s still a pity that the show made Duncan and Isadora (to my mind) pretty bland. Quigley feels like a much more fleshed-out, interesting character than both his siblings combined - brave, resourceful, but also a bit reckless. And he’s the only Quagmire who has the right hairstyle (well, at least he looks very much like the Quagmire triplets in the illustrations for the translation I’ve read).
- Fernald and Sunny shared the cutest moments of the season. Yet still - I thought that when Fernald threw the cage off the mountain, he knew it was empty, but even if he did not, it wouldn’t be completely out of character for him to sacrifice something he cares about to win Olaf’s respect. Loved the Cinderella parallel and how Fernald is a messed-up version of Sunny’s fairy godmother. Also when he found out she was poisoned and took her in his arms T_T
- The interaction between Fernald and Fiona was exactly what I hoped for, they’re ride or die for each other since the very moment they’re reunited
- Jerome/Charles and Babs/Mrs Bass! I’m choosing to believe both Jerome and Babs survived the fire (I mean, Justice Strauss managed to escape, and she was on the freaking rooftop!) and reunited with their respective love interests. Here for the implication that Charles is now running the lumbermill on his own after Sir fled - maybe it will finally become a better place of employment.
- I dreamed of Bea II and Lemony sharing root bear floats and I cannot believe I actually got to have this
- Kit and Lemony having some scenes together!
- The first shots of the Hotel Denouement… very pretty, very aesthetic
- I liked how it is shown that the Denouement brothers still care about one another despite their ideological differences (the way Frank and Ernest are both clearly grieving during the trial!). Another thing I liked was how at first they made it seem like Kit is dating the wicked brother. If I haven’t read the books, that would’ve been a big “holy shit” moment.
- The Man with a Beard but No Hair and the Woman with Hair but No Beard were properly menacing, and making their beard and hair essentially the same but upside down was brilliant.
- Some of the theories they chose to make true on the show are the ones that I believe to be true as well (e.g. Lemony being the taxi driver in TPP, The Man with a Beard and the Woman with Hair being Olaf’s chaperones/guardians, Olaf and Esme having murdered Carmelita’s parents).
- Lemony carrying around photos of his siblings
- When Violet closed Olaf’s eyes, I cried again.
Things I hatedThings I hated:
- I propose we all agree that Ish is lying about being the founder of VFD because he hasn’t seen new faces in ages and finally there are some new castaways whom he can bullshit about being more important than he actually was and stroking his ego. It became clear a long time ago that the show doesn’t give a damn about the canon timeline, but VFD being that recent does not make sense even in the Netflix-verse. What about so many VFD buildings, the underground repurposed as secret tunnels, the whole city being shaped like the VFD sign? It couldn’t have happened that fast. What about Kit saying she hadn’t learned to hang glide until she was seven? Does not sound like a regular thing to teach a child. Also it means that All the Wrong Questions cannot be adapted for the screen because then the Netflix-verse would contradict itself. The VFD was introduced as such a huge, omnipresent organization, and in the end it boiled down to, like, a group of too ambitious students letting their teacher fill their heads with nonsense The Secret History-style? Ridiculous.
- The only things I liked about the opera flashback was how dashing everyone looked (I think this was Esme’s best look in all three seasons) and how happy and careless and relaxed they were while Beatrice was singing. In all other respects it was a trainwreck. I am not upset that on the show it didn’t happen when the characters were kids because I do not have a strong opinion on what age everyone was then, and because learning that your friends and your girlfriend killed your parents sounds like a traumatizing experience no matter the age. But that’s the thing - on the show, it didn’t go down like this. The horror of what happened was downplayed by reducing the number of victims to Olaf’s father only, by not mentioning Kit’s involvement at all and turning a premeditated murder into manslaughter. And where’s Bertrand? Olaf blames both Baudelaires but we are shown that he saw Beatrice and Lemony with the darts. It isn’t even implied that Bertrand made the darts himself for this purpose specifically because Esme has the same weapon. And how does it all tie with the masked ball scene in s2? Kit writes Lemony a note saying that “Olaf knows” - of course he does, he fucking saw them! Why did Esme have the sugar bowl with the antidote with her at the opera - was she just casually drinking tea with this rare and precious substance to overdose and gain superpowers? What about the sugar cubes left behind - was there also some regular sugar in the bowl to, idk, make it seem less suspicious? An absolute mess, in my opinion.
- To continue the previous point: Bertrand seems like an absolutely unimportant figure, his role minimized to a minute or so on the island, and he deserves better
- This is small in importance but I really disliked that Kit said that Violet ties up her hair just like her mother while in the books it was her father, no matter whether Kit meant Bertrand or Lemony =/
- Also, like. Taking “or she!” from Fiona and giving it to Violet. Didn’t like that. Neither did I like Fiona calling Phil Cookie.
- IIRC they also gave “It’s Herman Melville” to Kit instead of Klaus? Why
- Larry was a recurring character who had a lot to do in s1 and 2, yet his death (and a horrible one, he was literally boiled alive) was presented in a quite an offhand way. I’m not saying he should’ve necessarily stayed alive - in fact, his death fits in very well with the motif of all decent adults eventually getting killed - but, in my view, it should’ve been given more weight.
- As I’ve already mentioned, I don’t remember The End that well, but everything about Ish and drugging the islanders seemed significantly less scary than in the books somehow
- The shot of Duncan and Isadora was clearly copy-pasted from TVV… listen, if you’re giving them a 100% happy ending, at least do not half-ass it
Things I have mixed feelings aboutThings I have mixed feelings about:
- I loved the Kitlaf stuff; probably showing that they were together in the opera flashback makes it less of a revelation than in the books, but I thought all their shared moments very moving. I also found it an interesting choice to make each of them recite bits from both poems, thus pointing out that Olaf once was not a stranger to love and romantic poetry and that Kit might share his ideas about “man hands on misery to man”. However, I think it’s a pity that Netflix eliminated all hints at Olaf possibly being Bea’s father. Even if he was not, the possibility of it being true in the light of the Baudelaires still raising Bea with love and care is, to my mind, very important.
- Jacquelyn being R… well, we saw that coming. Her mother’s death being so recent is another “fuck you” to the canon timeline, but at least it explains why in the previous two seasons nobody called her the duchess - officially, she wasn’t one yet. I don’t perceive the show as an extension of book canon - to me, it is just one interpretation among many - so this reveal hasn’t changed the fact that I imagine R being different from Jacquelyn. On the one hand, I am happy that one of my favourite characters made it into the adaptation (yes, one of my favourite characters is a sum total of comments made by other characters and a possibly fake letter, what of it), but I would’ve preferred if her portrayal included more of what we know about her from the books, such as her being close to both Lemony and Beatrice.
- By the time s3 aired, I had already reconciled myself to the fact that the show version of Kit will be extremely toned down, so this disappointment was expected and therefore not that strong. I think there were some moments in which she actually was more of her book version (recruiting kids to fulfil dangerous tasks like it’s nothing special, telling Lemony he should return to VFD), but of course this definitely noble, action-hero, composed Kit who looks forward to becoming a mother and leading a quiet life with Dewie on some island (wait, did they mean the Island?) is significantly less interesting than morally grey and depressed Kit who took part in many dubious or outright sinister plans (such as the Anwhistle Aquatics fire and the murder of Olaf’s parents, in which both she was not even involved on the show) and did not seem to care about her baby that much. It is truly ironic that Mr Poe repeatedly accidentally calls her Jacquelyn because show!Kit feels very much like a Jacquelyn 2.0.
- My first impression of Fiona was “oh no, they really gave her all the flaws her stepfather had in the books”. I ended up liking her because she worked on her behavior and most of the times she was rude it felt like she’s just trying too hard to convince everyone, herself included, that she’s got this while constantly being unsure and confused on the inside. But her weird rivalry with Violet still rubbed me the wrong way. I’m glad they resolved their issues in the end.
- The sugar bowl containing the antidote is an okay choice (timeline inconsistencies aside), but 1) I would’ve preferred it to stay a mystery, like in the books; 2) I still like the “this bitch empty” theory more.
- There was more of VFD being not entirely noble in this season (e.g. the Medusoid Mycelium) but of course it is still a very watered-down version of what this organization was like.
- Listen, I’d be lying if I said I hated the happy ending for the Quagmires and the Widdershins. Heck, my favourite post-The End headcanon is that they all (and Hector!) survived the Great Unknown and stuck together as one big family of choice. But what was the point of showing us the Bombinating Beast Great Unknown and, most importantly, having someone mention that it is a metaphor for death if it is not used as such? It is a metaphor, it does not necessarily mean that they literally died, it could just as well mean that the Baudelaires simply never learned what happened to all these people. A wasted opportunity.
- I assume the Baudelaires never got separated from Bea in the adaptation (since she does not immediately ask Lemony about them but proceeds, on the contrary, to tell him what happened to them) and the reason she searched for Lemony was simply wishing to get to know her uncle. It’s not bad, it fits well in the more optimistic narrative of the show, but the original story is still more interesting.
That’s probably all - at least all that comes to my mind at the moment.
On the whole, I think Season 3 and the show in general were rather a good adaptation than a bad one. Most importantly, I think it succeeds in performing what I consider the main function of an adaptation - making the audience interested in the source material. I am sure more people will read ASOUE (and ATWQ, and other Snicketverse books) after watching the show. I am also sure those who will read after watching the show first have a big storm coming.
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